"That drew me to wine and coffee, this sort of visceral pleasure..Like when when I would listen to certain pieces of music and be moved to having shivers."
"At that point, whether you know or understand any of these chemical factors, that's when you slow down and be like, 'This wine doesn't taste like I expected.'"
Gingerbread," and that's how I say it with a capital G...at its simplest and purest, a housing project, an inversion of the one in which I grew up in East New York.